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Does anyone know when the big springs arrive in the fraser ??? And fow and
where to get them ???
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They are in the river now!!!,Dont open until may 1,The best fishing for them is mid june to lat august!!!Bar fish using spin nglos good luck!!!
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So has anyone caught any so far??
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It open for catch and release.
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Thanks guys, do any of you have any fav. spin n' glo's ??? Or locations ???
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Spud, Chrome with green head or fluorescent orange head with mylar wings.They've worked for me. Good Luck. Brett.
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This time of year with high dirty water I like doing the creek mouths....Drifting bait or spincasting
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I apologize for all of the questions, but I'm new to this type of fishing. Are the watermelon spin n' glo's any good ??? And what is available in around late May/early June ??? Thanks guys for the input, it's much appretiated.
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Call me stupid, but I've never seen any Fraser river springs in the Capilano !! Brett.
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Not only are there no Fraser fish in the Cap-there are no Steelies spawning there either!! The idea that Steelhead have found a place to spawn in that ditch full of broken rocks is complete BS-they haven't and they won't it's a 100% hatchery project and there is absolutely NO natural recruitment. |
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Fishing for Springs in May depends on one thing and one thing only..The water. There are Springs moving through the river all month no matter what. However, most years, the month of May consists of about 4 or 5 days (spread apart too) where the water is actually dropping and fishable. If you are flossing the scale bar, you'll do good all month, but if you are Bar Fishing, then the water must be dropping or at least stable if you expect to catch something. I've been Bar fishing the Fraser since I was 3 feet tall and if the water is coming up, the catch is usually about 1-2 fish per 30 rods. If the water is dropping and decent visiblity, then the catch is usually about 6-10 fish per 30 rods. The best I've ever seen it for Red Springs is about 15-18 fish per 30 rods. I say 30 rods because thats how many people will fit on a good bar on a busy day.
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Go to Cable or Dogleg pools on the Cap first light and look in the tailout and you will see how wrong you are. Hope to see ya out in the chuck, and if your name is the handle on your boat I expected more from you.
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Good luck Mickey, cause I checked the water colour this afternoon and the only way you're gonna catch anything is flossing, so don't go bsing me.
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The dirtier the water the better. Old hands like us know that there are certain places that Springs stop to clean their gills-that's where we're headed. Even better news is the beeks who line up on those zoo-like bars are nowhere in sight. Yes, life is good!
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Like I said earlier...creek mouths or if youre in a boat Harison mouth,vedder,or the mouth of the Coke all good till end of spring runoff....
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Hey spudcote You asked when: The chinook run historically peaks during a two week period around June 20th, although they are in the river March-late fall. You asked how: 1)Bar fishing with a 'bar rig' using a spin n' glow, roe or both. Many people swear by salted chum roe. 2)Bottom bouncing with yarn and/or corkie 3)Float fishing with bait, or casting and retrieving spoons and spinners at creek mouths You asked where: I am assuming you don't have a boat. Brownsville bar is supposedly your best bet close to Greater Vancouver. It is located under the Pattullo bridge on the Surrey side. There is a bar in Fort Langley under a bridge (don't know the name maybe somebody can help me here...) that is very good. You will need a saltwater license to fish this section of the Fraser. I've heard people use bar rigs with roe on one hook and a spin and glow on the other hook with only 2 oz of weight needed to hold bottom, which is nice if you don't have a heavy bar rod. But I'm not sure if using two hooks is still legal under salt water regulations. If you have transportation there are some good bars farther up river all the way to Hope. I have fished a few of them and can give you directions/info, etc. Please feel free to e-mail me, I have lots of info on this subject I can scan and send you. Vic Carraro has written a very good article on this subject, you can access it by clicking on 'fishing articles' on the home page of this website; under the Vic Carraro subsection you''ll find an article called 'Early Chinook Fishing on the Fraser River'. I have another good article by Ken Kristian I can send you. Good Luck!
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Useful info Jamester. So do you think that water clarity has a huge effect if you are using roe in the tidal Fraser? I've barfished quite a bit during the spring time here but have only encountered one chinook. There sure are plenty of bull trout though. If they are peaking in June, wouldn't they be peaking down here right now? Do you also fish with roe during the summer time? Because I find it very hard as there are so many small coarse fish that can peck your bait.
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Yes i have been out patrice,we hhoked two and landed one!!It was gently released because they were not open yet!!,I also find the dirtier the water the better,see you out there boys!!!!
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| I haven't used roe in the Fraser enough to answer your question. I know I guy who bar fishes the Fort Langley bar mentioned above, he uses a spin and glow on the top hook and salted dog roe on the bottom, and he claims the spring will "always take the roe even in dirty water conditions" - I'm guessing the fish senses the vibration of the spin and glow in dirty water conditions and then smells the roe while investigating the spin and glow and grabs it. This guy grew up in Kitimat and has a lot of experience with bar fishing from up there. He also thinks that you catch more chinook jacks with roe than adult chinook, compared to using the spin and glow only. I bottom bounce the Fraser for Sockeye and Chinook. I fish up by Hope and don't have a rod capable of casting 16-22 oz of lead to bar fish. Wish I had a boat that could get me to a good bar, then I'd bar fish instead. Everyone seems to bottom bounce on the walk-in accessable bars up river, so I follow suit. For chinook I use red wool with or without corkie, and some anise oil for scent. Using roe on the Fraser when bottom bouncing is a nightmare, rebaiting every cast. The June 20th peak for chinook is based on the Albion test fishery which is near Albion Ferry on the Fraser. I don't know how far chinook travel per day upriver, so I don't know when that same peak period occurs 'down here'. Cheers
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jamester,do you think those springs you catch bottom bouncing are really hitting youre wool or corky presentation??
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Its amazing that some people still dont understand the Fraser Fishery.If you have any fishing backround at all then you could put two and two together. Jamester ever wonder why people use 15ft leaders?. The visibility in the fraser in May is almost 0. Amazingly many anglers and I still hook many fish??? I hope this dosn't turn into another flossing debate as you can just look back at last years discussions. If you wanna catch springs in the fraser right now get out on a bar and chuck a Glo out there Or become a good dentist. Tight Lines
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Has anyone been doing bottem bouncing yet that you have seen?
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I've watched the springs actually chase my red wool halfway across the Fraser just to hit it! Amazing to watch! I think they have radar. But seriously folks! I have no illusions about the kind of fishing I've done on the the Fraser river for sockeye and springs, especially during the freshet for springs. It's flossing (or 'clotheslining' as I like to think of it). It is fishing and not sportfishing. When there is ample room downstream from me I like to hang my offering there for as long as I think it is effective, that's about the best chance of ethically catching a chinook under these conditions, the fish can make the conscious decision to grab it after smelling the scent. I don't cast straight out, but about 45 degrees downstream from my position and let it roll from there. By the way, my wife is a dentist so I get all the inside tips on flossing. The only place I've ever used bottom bouncing is on the Fraser, for springs and sockeye only. Not proud of it, and I harbour a lot of guilt every time I bite into a sockeye steak.
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| Springs are incredibly strong fish that fight hard. Does anyone know of any studies regarding the survival of caught and released springs. I'd hate to think that these fish are released and do not have enough left to make it to their spawning grounds. I visited a town called Valemount two years ago and there were springs spawning there in August that had passed by Vancouver about two months earlier. These fish were huge, Valemount is the farthest western migration of Fraser River salmon, or at least the sign at the entrance of the town makes this claim. Some people catch and release 50 sockeye in a day, I wonder how many of these fish survive to make it to their natal stream. Does anyone have any info or thoughts on this subject? Please post them. Personally I think sockeye are the gamiest Pacific salmon, pound for pound of course, they can't have much left after the fight they put up. They exhibit the most will to live IMHO. I have killed every sockeye I have ever hooked, 4 fish in total. This summer I'm thinking about catching and releasing some on the fly in the Fraser. Would like to know what their survival rate would be. Thanks.
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Bounced Island 22 area on sat. Weather was perfect in the sun from 6am till 2pm. Did not see anything from the other bouncers or the guys barfishing queens. Saw one spring jump of about 25lbs. Anyone else been bouncing? Thinking next time of bouncing around Herrling area or going the mouth of the Vedd.
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I have been reading this short post on Fraser Springs. I think this will be post 76? But I have a problem with what Mickey Finn has said about the Cap. Mick time to get your head out of that little dark hole called your rectol cannal and let the BS flow, "as Not only are there no Fraser fish in the Cap-there are no Steelies spawning there either" What On Gods Green Earth ya been smoking man. The Cap has lots of steely's that are spawning right now. Ie they are in Cable and dogleg that is all i will say but just about every pool as a pair of them spawning in the tail-outs. After reading your post's there Mickey Finn ya might have 30years fishing but it should be 30years |
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Is anybody having luck?Are they in?Where you fish for them?
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There are a lot of people bottom bouncing at wellinton bar. This morning there where 9 fish taken that I say.
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Where's the Wellinton bar located at? Thank you.
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boat access from island 22
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