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I have a question about the legalities of owning Riverfront property. There
is a section of the Cowichan that is bordered by private property. I was
there today and one of the guys came out and kinda gave me .
I know I was ok in the river. But next time if I go I will walk down from
the public property but some parts are un wadeable(SP). My question
is: what part of the shoreline belongs to the property owner and what is
considered part of the river? I dont know what the big deal is......really it will just take me an extra half hour to get to my spot if i have to walk down. Thanks
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the high water mark is where they own to i beleive
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My son and I will be coming to fly fish the Cowichan the second week in august. Is the river for the most part wadeable? Is it similar to the Little Qualicum or Englishman River? Are there any resorts on the river for us to stay in. Camping is out of the question this year. I've never been on this river and I'm not sure what to expect.
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Its determined by a 50-year flood level (50 might not be the exact year) so if river has ever reached the level you were standing on, its public land.
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On a few rivers in BC, I don't know if the Cowichan is one, the owners have homestead rights. That is, the owner of the property owns right into the river. The Alouette river is one of the few. I was asked by the RCMP to move out of the river and off the property of the homeowner. I phoned the Maple Ridge RCMP and was told about the homestead rights. I didn't pursue it any further, but perhaps someone can shed more light on this situation? tight lines
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Yes Don I remember hearing about some kind of exception to do with the Cowichan maybe that's it. The owner owns all the land right to the center of the river it's not all of the Cow just a few spots. Daisy Mae- try this place http://www.bbcanada.com/119html looks OK although it's a little close to downtown Duncan/the highway for my tastes. Phone Visitors Info Center in Duncan 250-746-4636/ fax 250-748-111 for info on places to stay there are a number of options some more palatable and cleaner than others. http://www.duncancc.bc.ca emailing those Folks I've found to be less than effective I'm still awaiting a response from last year (!) There is a place/resort right on the River I've drifted by it a number of times I can't for the life of me remember the name. Are you sure there'll be enough water in that River in August? I've drifted in only in winter so I have no idea of summer conditons certainly there are fishy looking spots galore on the Cow.
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Found it!!! Must have been that bowl of Strawberries I just had! http://www.sahtlamlodge.com/ is the name of the place, it's a legend up there on the Cow. |
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I think we will be fishing Cowichan Lake. Can't wait to get back to the Island!
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Jason and Casey are right! There's an that lives at the end of osborne road on the vedder that thinks he owns it right down to the river. A few years ago he didn't like people driving to the end of the road so he dumped handfuls of nails so people would gets flats. After the nails rusted you could not see them but all you had to do is brush your feet along the road and you could notice them. Picked up 2 handfuls one day. Just plain ignorance
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A fast call on the toll-free number in the blue pages of the phone book to the Lands Ministry reveals: A: Yes, there *are* certain tracts of land in BC where the landowner has the property out into the river. (Rare, and isolated) B: Under normal grants/titles, the property stops at the point on the property where nothing grows any more. (Commonly referred to as the high water mark.) So, as long as you can access the river from some point different than the guy's land, there's not much can happen on the shore or in the river if the land's a regular parcel. Makes me see RED the way some property owners carry on !! PS: the Enquiry BC number in the blue pages of the phone book is good for any government office/ministry for any town/city in BC.... you get the govvie switchboard in Victoria, who then puts the call anywhere in BC you need to go, 8.30-4.30 free gratis on the house other than the tax dollars you're paying anyway.
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I wonder ... how is the average person supposed to know if the handpainted, misspelled "No Fyshing, No Trespasting" sign is a legitimate one (e.g. an old land title that the proletariat will eventually repeal) or a fake one (erected by some **** that needs a lesson in democracy) ? Short of carrying a cell phone and calling the government, I mean. I wonder if there isn't some legal remedy available against those people who claim such rights, but don't really own them ? Aren't they simply committing a type of fraud ?
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The term "riparian rights" are for what i think is being discussed here...and only three land owners on the Alouette have it...you have to have the land handed down generation to generation to be eligable...it comes from the time when the gov't encouraged immigration to the region before them riparian right laws were changed...sort of a grand-father clause thing...the problem is everybody on the river seems to think they have it and calling their bluff, short of going to the local minicipal hall,is the only way to really find out. I was not aware of similar laws on the Cowichan as the whole thing is very rare... SBM
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