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Hello to all honorable Anglers ! I know its feel good to let the presure out witch been built in the last 3 years about our salmon fishing Rigt on the Fraser river , i agree with conservation programs to protect our salmon & keep enjoy the fishing (not snaging ) WHY the native nets keep harvest the salmon for many days before official sport fishing , trough the nigt,& after official closure for all kind of salmon species ? WHEN all that will end ? & if NO for us must be NO for all ! HOW we can make hear our rights ?... for sure not just keep posting our anger through this board , its time to Stand UP & all anglers meet at DFO Headqurter & hear what they have to say about that ......! ...dont you see they abusing of our Tollerance ! & the Hunters are facing the same problem , the Extinction of hunting Rights ... ALL FOR ONE & ONE FOR ALL (how true ) ... tx for ur time gentlemans . Sphinx
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I am absolutely OUTRAGED by this 21 day native sein fishery on the fraser! I won't even get started on how pissed off I am, all of us sportsfishermen need to get together and do something about this bullsh!t
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Low class, fishbarf, low class. Perhaps Sphinx's first language is not english, and he is doing the best he can? FWIW, I had no trouble discerning the essential meaning of his post. If you are going to insult people, at least have the guts to provide your real name. (Mine is in my profile.) KW
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The natives fishing rights is a load of #$%@. In Saanich Inlet last year they put up a net for Coho in an already recovering stock. I am with you guys, I cant stand it. I could go on for days about it. Chris
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<15960>
As long as the idiot crowd keeps fishing with us on local rivers you can expect the sportfishing opportunities to be repressed. If the "urban legend" type reports of what happened at scale bar are correct then we don't deserve to fish. As sportfisher's we are not capable of following the rules as a group and have had our fishing privilages revoked. Until the majoriy of sportfishers start followng all of the reg's it will get worse not better. We all comment regularly about fishing beside a group of chowderheads but most of us do nothing. Don't take out your anger on the Natives for being permitted to fish. Your anger is misdirected. They are permitted to fish by DFO and the Provincial Government. If you don't like that then direct your anger towrds the Authorities. If we were allowed to fish we would all do so very happily even though the commercial fleet would scream and yell at us we would still smile and keep fishing. Just a little different perspective.
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Fishdaddy, "Until the majoriy of sportfishers start followng all of the reg's it will get worse not better" Sorry bud, but the majority of BC sportfisherman do fish by the rules. The few that break the rules do so because of the lack of Fisheries presence on the River. All they had to do at Scale Bar this year was make an example of a number of guys and the problem is solved. I'm on the water 100+ days a year and I rarely see guys breaking the rules. The guys that are fishing illegaly tend to do so in the easiest possible palces to police, such as the Scale Bar,Vedder Crossing, etc. To say the majority of BC fisherman disregard the rules because of a few meatheads is misleading. The percentages of unethical fisherman, IMO, is the same across all three user groups, Natives, Commercial,Sporties.None of these fisheries is monitered close enough. On the Fraser today I consistently saw dead pinks floating downstream. The strangest thing about it was they were 95% prespawn male fish that were showing their humps. Take a guess why these fish were drifting downriver. And BTW,including today, it's been about 200 trips out since I've seen a C.O., much less been checked.
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Hi Guys Tx Woody , ya right my first language is not English & m glad to see the message have pass & have been disscus in this board ,why wait till last minute next year to see what's happens & then again this board will be floded with anger & frustation , all we have to do for next year , just to organize a meeting in front of DFO ,they MUST Answer to our questions ... we have a full year for that ,we need the right answer to the right question & i dont talk about conservation i talk bout right's ( good we dont have nations with canibalism traditions , but rights are rights & who knows government may alowed that to ,right ?)LOL This board can do more then ya think , it's a werry usefull tool. When we are ready ? PS: i hope this is enough constuctiv 4 ya Fishbarf , if not i can post in other 3 language , ya Smart Ass(that's english, right?):-) Ty for reply gentlemans .
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Master Baiter, I agree with you entirely. I also have not been checked by a CO in the last few years and I agree that alot of fisherman do follow the regs but alot don't. You can't convince me that the boys out a Herrling right now are fishing for stealhead. They are practicing catch and release. The main message in my post was to point out that First Nations have been allowed to fish and as such we can't expect them to sit on the dock. Given the opportunity to fish any group would take advantage of it. Our anger needs to be properly ddirected to those that make these decisions in the first place. I believe limited openings for all can be accomplished, but I know already the result would be people wining about the openings not being long enough etc. etc. etc. I am glad I don't have to make the decisions, only critcise them once they are done.
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I want to tell you after reading Vic's post about a quasi commercial seine net fishing operation going on at Island 22 I didn't believe it. Today I checked out Island 22 and unfortunately I can confirm, right at the public boat launch there it is - reefer truck, dozens of toats all over the place, forklift etc. Looks like a mini Canadian Fish plant. A commercial operation right in the middle of of public park. This is really pushing too far. I tell you if I tried to start an offloading business in a public park I would have WCB and half a dozen other provincial bodies putting the kibosh to it. The First Nations are speaking clearly- we're going to fish any way and anywhere we bloody well want to. Seems the cerimonial and food fish reason for fishing has truly been put to bed, finally. What I am most unhappy about is that for years DFO and the Liberals have allowed the First Nations push the envelope - First it the nets were allowed in the river whenever the fish were running. A few years ago Frst Nations gill netters plunked their nets next to the sport fishers at Island 22 during sockeye season. Now a quasi commercial operation for pinks in a public park. I don't want to think whats next. I think it's been made clear this year-the First Nations fishery has nothing to do with ceremonial or food fish and everthing to do with greed and making money at any cost. Please keep on the DFO and the Liberals about this issue. With the DFO and Liberals turning a blind eye and aggresive, escalating pressure on fish stocks by the First Nations there can be no doubt, the entire mess will get worse if we don't keep the pressure on. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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<16010>
David, makes you sick doesn't it. The worst part is that you can't even go out and C&R because you might catch a coho among those 10 million pinks.It's a slap in our faces. I was sent a letter last year by the City of Aggasiz because I launch my boat at Kilby Provincial Park.I do this only when the water is too low to leave it at Harrison Bay. They told me that you cannot do bussiness or run a bussiness from a provincial park. I don't do either, just launch my boat. I had to go through a series of letter writings and calling city councellors to get them off my back.I wonder what they would say if we pulled in some reefer trucks. Mathew, you are quite right, only males floating down. I wonder if it's caused by this new catch and hurling method practiced by some of the beach seiners.
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