I lost my licence =-(
What do I do if i lost my fishing licences? I managed to misplace licences and i ned to know how to go about getting new ones. thanks! Casey P.S. this was going to go on general discussion but i couldnt get to the bottom of the page.

I believe that your local Government Agents Office will have the forms you need to fill out and they can issue you a replacement license. This information is on page 6 of the fishing regs. Fish on!

I lost my licence once FUI(fishing under the influence)I thought the guy could have shown some compassion and given me a 24 hour streamside. Ya gotta be careful out there.

I had the RCMP come knocking on my door because those IDIOTS at the DFO did not believe that my license was legitimate. I bought the license on a Friday morning thinking I would go fishing on the weekend; but when I got to work I found out that my boss gave us the day off since he had some family emergency to go to. I rushed home and got my gear and took off to the river. After a couple of hours a DFO agent came by to check licenses...I realized I had left the license in my business suit pocket and explained this to him. Ok he said and he gave a 24 hr streamside to produce my license. I went home later and mailed a copy of the license to the DFO along with the citation with the 24 hr warning. I left it at that. A few months went by and the RCMP came to my house with an ARREST warrant for a fishing offense! I explained the situation to the cop and showed him my license...he told me to contact the DFO immediately and gave me a break because he should have taken to jail right then and there. When I contacted the DFO (after several calls; delays and general bureaucratic BS); I spoke to the head of the vancouver department who looked into it. Finally later after wasting a day trying to find out how this could have happened; the DFO boss called me back and said "due to the suspicious nature of my license being issued on the same day as of the infraction the DFO officer who ticketed me believed that I had bought the license AFTER he gave me the citation." I was stunned. This F@^#@ing! DFO officer acted independently as judge and jury even though I had a legitimate license. He made a completely unsubstantiated accusation as to when I bought the damn license and instructed the court to issue an arrest warrant on me. What an SOB. The supervisor told me that he backed his officer's action but would cancel the arrest warrant. Even that made me wonder about the competance of the DFO staff because either I am wrong and guilty of fraud or the DFO ticketing officer is wrong; but the supervisor arranged it that no one was to blame. Funny, I did not feel that way after having the RCMP tell me I was unnder arrest for a fishing violation. With this kind of "enforcement" it is no wonder our rivers are a mess.

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They should have busted you down to size.That would have been one less clown fumbling around on the river bank,trying to get in touch with his feminine side.You are full of crap.The FOC will not enforce the issue that way,by calling the cops on you.They will contact the motor vehicle office and it would then be impossible for you to insure a motor vehicle or renew a drivers licence,until the infraction is paid.End of story.If you do not have an insured vehicle in the province of BC,or a valid BC drivers licence,they will then send the sherriff to remove the licence and instruct you of your next option.Dont even reply,you suck. HM

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Yes they will enforce the issue that way. According to a CO whom I have met, the rule of thumb is that they ticket you, if you don't pay the ticket in a month, they have a warrant out for your arrest. Things have probably changed since your ride alongs back in the 80's HM. Bongo Sensitive Fisherman, TAke it easy on those idiots on the DFO, they do have a right to suspect what they did, do they not, what would you do if you were doing that job?? They are just doing what's right, and I know sometimes the innocent get in the way, but thats the way a lot of things go sometimes. Fortunately you had some easy going officers who let it slide and you are ok now are you not? You should have gotten a ticket as soon as you DIDN'T PRODUCE YOUR LICENSE, SO YOU SHOULD BE HAPPY AS IS. IT IS YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO PRODUCE YOUR LICENSE AT REQUEST FOR THE OFFICER, FISHING IS A PRIVILEGE, JUST LIKE DRIVING, AND IF YOU GET CAUGHT ON THE ROAD WITHOUT A LICENSE, YOU GET A TICKET, RIGHT THEN AND THERE NO IF'S AND'S, OR BUT'S. I have no real sympathy for your case and you got lucky. Speaking with a friend who works in a tackle shop, apparenlty they now have to fill out the time of day apparently when the license was issued now (I think), so this kind of thing can be avoided in the future.

Always pinch your barbs!

innocent until guilty my friends; we are not in Russia. I guess the DFO forgot which country it lived in. My only "crime" was to be forgetful. I did buy the license and it was legitimate. But one self-important official took it uopn himself to act like a detective/judge/jury. DFO agents are not trained to do that. Not even a policeman is trained to be a judge. My license was legal. ps..Hunter...try not to get so vicious in your personal attacks especially since you are completely wrong.

matthew, all I did was forget my license in a jacket due to a last minute change of plans...is everyone who forgets an idiot in your book? Have you ever forgotten something matthew? Even the DFO ackowledges this fact by issuing 24 hr streamside warnings. geeze I would not want to fish with you guys...lighten up with being so judgemental...I'd wager a lot of money you have not lived "perfect" lives yourselves.

Unfortunatly Bongo you are in the wrong thoses idiot co's are there to enforce the fishing regulations and if you didnt have your license because you forgot it then the officer had every right to ticket you and have a suspicion that you bought the lisence after you were ticketed! Tight Lines

Bongo, Like I said, you got lucky, and you never had a case. You are guilty. You should have been ticketed when you didn't produce your license to the officer. Whether you had it or not isn't the issue. If you don't have your license on your person WITH YOU while fishing to produce IMMEDIATELY for the officer, and you get caught, you are supposed to get a ticket. We've all forgotten things, but like having a rod and reel, I make sure I have my license on my person before going fishing, just like I don't go driving until I make sure I have my drivers license on me. Secondly, your arrogance is amazing. Calling the DFO officials idiots because they are trying to do their job as best as they can, a thankless job at that, amazes me. Just because they don't agree with you, doesn't give you the right to call them idiots, and you should be praising them for saving you the 150 bucks. I have complete respect for the DFO officers because their man power is very stretched and limited and I make a point to tell them it is nice to see them on the river everytime they come by to check my license.

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Scott,my ride alongs were more recent than that.You spoke of CO,which of course are provincial,your shadow,spoke of DFO,which is of course FOC.If you recall,I recieved a ticket from the feds for the same offence,remember.I changed jackets and left it in the old vest.After producing the licence and ticket,I was then instructed as to their proceedure.Bongo,just dont bullshit,if you do,make it good. HM

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Fair enough HM.

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What happened to my post? It wasnt bad,just told of dfo giving me a bogus ticket and how i took them to court and won. Some of them like any other enforcement officer can get a little over zelous now and then.
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Scott, Have you ever (In your life) forgotten your wallet or driver's license? maybe keys? I am not sure what to make of your response in accusing me of arrogance when it was clear the the DFO officer made an assumption on the validity of my license AFTER he told me it was OK as long as I sent my copy in within 24 hrs. He changed the rules on me without even contacting me to enquire why the license was issued on the same day. He assumed I exercised a fraud as a judge and jury would. But the catch is DFO officers do not have the authority to act as a judge; especially after I fulfilled his requirements of submitting my license within the 24 hrs HE demanded. Legally he was required to inform that an arrest warrant would be issued since I fullfilled the obligations of the 24 hr streamside warning. It states clearly that I must submit my license and the charge is dropped. (I did check with a lawyer). Scott, Don't you see that I was just following HIS instructions but he changed the rules on me without telling me? Ironically I would not have a legal leg to stand on IF I was issued a regular violation ticket. But since I was given a DIFFERENT form (and this was the DFO agent's choice) the 24hr rule applied. The point is this: we live in a society of rules and no one has the right to arbritarily change them without due process. This is why I am angry with the behaviour of this officer. He broke his own rule. Sure I should not have been fishing without my license, but I forgot it. This is a fact which is recognized by even the DFO which is why they also have 24 hr warning tickets (as opposed to a regular violation ticket). Even city cops cannot charge you for driving without a license because you have 24hrs to show up with a copy of it to a police station. Only then do get the full charge ticket. But if a cop says I don't like the look of driver's license...the officer MUST inform you that you are NOW being charged. He does not have that authority NOT to inform you and if he trys he is bypassing the law. As a parallel, this is why the DFO supervisor immediately discharged my warrant for the arrest because he saw it was executed against the very rules of the DFO. Scott you seem like an intelligent guy; do you not see this point?

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Casey, Government agent for fresh water (non-tidal) sign an lost licence declaration, pay $5.00 or so, and pay full pull for the extra tags...with tidal you go to a shop near you...fill out another declaration and pay full pull again for the whole amount ($28.89). The agents are in either Chilliwack or Squamish. Too bad the inquiry you posted turned into another mudslinging event...surprise, surprise...

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Bongo, You have to understand something here. He (the DFO officer, NOT idiot) changed his decision, because when he looked up your license, he found out that you bought your license THE SAME DAY YOU WERE CHECKED and given the 24 hour "Streamside." Does he not have a right to suspect you of going out and buying it after being caught? He does, does he not? I would do the EXACT same thing in his position if I found out what that you bought your license the same day and would he not have a legal right to suspect something @ the time? If you were taken to court, could he not have used this against you, that it is too suspicious that you bought the license the same day, you didn't show it to him, and then you sent it to him with the date you bought it the day you were checked and required to send it in? You obviously discharged the situation and got lucky, again. While I'm sure you are being honest about buying your license before you went fishing that day, and then forgetting it (which I find hard to believe for most people, but to each his own, I would be very adamant the first day of having my license about making sure I had it on me that day!!). I think the fact that what he told you, and then his later actions, are probably moot with relation to each other because of the fact of the suspicion invovled in your license being bought the same day you were without a license on the river. Now. However, I may have overlooked something here. On the river, when you were talking to the DFO officer at the time. Did you mention to the Officer that you bought your license that day? Could he not have checked up VIA phone with the tackle store as they would still have your carbon copy of your license on file? Could this not also prove your innocence?

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An alias maybe,but you know who I am.So,if I throw a few darts your way,you should be able to shake them off,right.As for copying,cmon Scott,no one gets under your skin like me.If anything,I could post as anyone and you would still know its me.That kind of makes me original,right.Also,I dont post much anymore,too busy,you know.But I do like to see those lame rebuttals from you.I would have thought I was losing my touch,if you didnt respond.You still have my phone#. HM

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hehe i found my licences after i got the replacemnts they were in my vest and the bag they were in was stuck to a container of roe lol DOH!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Stuck to a container of roe, that's classic eh Casey.I told you it sticks like s**t to a blanket but you didn't listen. LOL The only time I ever forgot my license, I got to the river real early for the pre slack tide, set up my gear, and guess who immediately showed up in their Zodiac. When it dawned on me I didn't have my license, I discreetly packed up, before they got to me, and spent 2 hours return to get the license from home. By that time the tide had shifted and apparently I had missed a decent Coho bite and didn't even get a bullhead that day. Never again, I'll tell ya.

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But the difference here Crabs is that you recognized that you didn't have your license and immediately acted upon it. You did the right thing and suffered the consequences of missing the bite. Bongo did not do the right thing, and he got off with only a warning, and he's bitching about it. Bongo, in this case I think discretion would have been the better part of valour. Having said that, if I had been in Bongo's position and did have the RCMP at my door for what I thought had been taken care of, I would have been pissed too. I think the entire incident happened because the officer saw the date on the license and made an assumption that was logical. If the officer had the time to investigate further, hecould have solved it quickly. Unfortunately, he's overworked and understaffed and is expected to be in 3 places at the same time. What it boils down to is that Ottawa doesn't give two sh*ts about sport fishing on the west coast and will not fund what is necessary to police it properly. This is particularly true of the fresh water salmon fishing which they continue to view as a provincial problem to police.

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I have a personal friend who is a CO, and I know they have a VERY difficult and frustrating job. There are very few of them (and FO's, for that matter) with HUGE territories to patrol, not to mention other duties than sports fishing regs enforcment. Considering that for every violation they catch, there are many more occurring at another location, (and they know it), anyone who gets off with a warning is lucky indeed! My CO friend tell's me that CO's are more interested in educating hunters and anglers than fining them. He's told me some interesting stories (without naming perps) e.g. many times per year he'll come across some guy fishing with a kid: the adult is doing the fishing, the kid is watching. As soon as the adult spots the CO, he hands the rod to the kid, then when asked for his licence, which of course he does not have, he claims he was not fishing - the kid was! When ticketed he becomes belligerent! Great lesson for the kid, eh? And just to save a few bucks. That is just one example of many that occur all the time. I fish a lot, and I also see lots of idiotic practices. IMHO one should have to pass a course/test (a la hunting licences) in order to be able to earn a fishing licence. There are just too many unethical anglers out there (either due to ignorance and/or arrogance). We have it very good here in BC/Canada. Under $50 to fish all year! Try checking out the cost of fishing in the British Isles/Europe! In short, take responsibility for your actions, and be mature enough to accept the consequences when you screw up! Lastly, Observe, Record, Report violations. The CO's REALLY appreciate it, and it'll help preserve the resource. Cheers! KW

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Ken, Perhaps you would like to review the topic I introduced under General Discussion - Needed, New Fishing License Method ...... Glad to see that someone else feels that a better more educated method is needed for people to obtain a fishing license. It is a reality that "a few bad apples" spoil it for the rest of us ...... they are the ones that get all the attention and what DFO and other groups pay more attention to. It should be a real concern for all of us that 95 out of 100 can do things right and by the book but the other 5 can spoil it for all of us. Earlier this year I was at a bar and caught a beautiful red spring (28 lbs) and promptly quit fishing thankful for my catch. I sat back and watched my buddy work to obtain his prize when I notice 2 other people (1 man, 1 woman) catch a nice red spring too. The Lady, I presume wasn't satisfied with one nice 20+ pound spring and kept on fishing ... under the pretext that she was going to catch one smaller (this was before the sockeye opening). Immediately after hooking into another nice sized red, she passed the rod off to her son (who wasn't even fishing and under 16) so that he too could take one home for them. My feeling is ...... WHY????? Aren't people happy with one nice sized fish???? The chances of catching an under 50cm red where we were fishing would be so remote that her intention was just that ... to hook one for her son. The point is .... HE WASN'T EVEN FISHING ..... NO CARE AND CONTROL .... NO FISH!!!! People do this sockeye fishing too .... 2 sockeye in the bag and now they try for a spring ...... while feasable to some extent that they may catch one ... why even try. The 10 or 15 sockeye they catch in this effort would be way better off. Why can't these people realize how fortunate they are for the 2 sockeye they have already beached. GREED KILLS .... and to some extent we all pay the price for these actions. Stu

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