Fishing reports for July 1999

Name: I Got Vun!!!
Location:Chehalis
Date Posted: 30-Jul-99
There are quite a few red springs in the Chehalis now if you know where to find 'em. Most of them are already starting to show colour (turning pink - red) but the meat is still fine. They may not be table fish but they are great smoked. The fish are small compared to previous years (range 8-12 lbs). There are rumours of a couple in the 20+ lb class being taken but no one I know has seen 'em. The river is in excellent shape. The water is crystal clear so the fish are spooky. Use small, light coloured floats, light leader (8lb), small hooks (#2 - #4) and very small bits of wool or tiny roe sacs, and you'll likely be successful. It will probably be a zoo out there this weekend unless the Vedder has come into shape. Good luck and good fishin'.

Name: SteveO
Location: Vedder R.
Date Posted: 30-Jul-99
Fished below Lickman Rd. yesterday for two hours. Hooked one spring but lost it. Saw another one boil in the same spot. Never saw anybody else hook anything.

Name: Dennis
Email: reldred@seaside.net
Location: ocean French Creek
Date Posted: 29-Jul-99
Limited on 18 to 25 lb springs on the 27th and 28th using strip herring at 130 ft. deep

Name: Tom Ferguson
Email: tcferguson@pacificcoast.net
Location: Cowichan River,Duncan BC
Date Posted: 28-Jul-99
Fished the Upper Cowichan (Road Pool, Spring Pool, Upper Skutz Falls). Road Pool was most productive for rainbow's using a #12 black nymph with a gold bead head. Brown trout fishing is best at daybreak and sunset using a muddler(gold or silver #8-10). Tightlines...

Name: Geoff McDonell
Location: Interior Lakes
Date Posted: 27-Jul-99
Having just returned from a week and a half of camping with the Family in the great BC Interior, here's some reports from what few lakes I was able to fish effectively (on my own, no kids or other chores...) Lac le Jeune: Maybe just getting into the summer doldrums- because of the rather quick onset of summer after a long cool spring, this lake is indicative of the 4000 foot elevation lakes- lots of insect activity from small to large caddis in various colours, black bodied, clear winged mayflies, lots of chironomids of various sizes and colours, and the usual scuds and leeches. What this means to the flyfisher is that the fish are feeding rather well, but you will be hard pressed to match any specific hatch as there is just too much fish food happening all at once. The most consistent action was being had by gang trolls with worms and trolling brown or black leeches or green scuds on full sink fly line - long, long line out- right down to the backing. Evenings along the shore lines brought out a strong hatch of small black caddis which drew in a few nice fish and I had a couple of evenings of dry fly fun with my 4 wt. rod catching and releasing large numbers of 8-10" trout with the odd 12 incher thrown in to keep me interested. very few large rises out in the lake in the evening, so I would suppose that a lot of feeding was going on well under the surface. Wind was quite a problem at times with strong winds starting in the morning and continuing on right through evening. Stake Lake: Nice little tubing lake and it holds some surprisingly large fish for a lake so close to the road and considering the pressure it probably gets. Spent three hours one afternoon doing the rubber duck and trolling a long full sink line to a small pale green scud on a 12 foot leader and managed to boat a couple of beauties and lost a couple more. Smallest trout was around 14" and the largest just under 18". Good fight, lots of aerials. Lac Des Roches (Hwy 24): We stayed at the Lac Des Roches lodge at the west end of the lake which is actually a small lake joined to the main lake by a swampy but navigable channel. All of our fishing was in the small lake and there was plenty of dry fly action in the evening along the edge of the drop-offs and during the day it was troll the long sinking line around to see what would bite. This lake is well populated by shiners and squawfish, but there are some sizable rainbows that show themselves during the day and evening with the tell tale large boil erupting from time to time. Best action was on full sink fly line with a brown glitter leech with all the line out to the backing and a varied troll speed with a couple of twitches thrown in. The rod would jump and throb and then a zzzz as the backing was was pulled down into the depths, fish on! The fight wasn't too spectacular- some strong head shakes and runs and then when you got the trout within sight of the tube or boat, they'd go mental and the fight was more like chinook- strong runs straight down for a few minutes till you could get the net on them. Big wide shoulders on these rainbows- even a 16" fish weighed close to three pounds. All in all looks like trolling an attractor fly or the old reliable scud or leech, even a muddler minnow would be the recommended starting point and bring the floating line for some limited evening dry fly action. Cheers.

Name: Scott Knutson
Email: scotknut@mailcity.com
Location: Shuswap River
Date Posted: 27-Jul-99
There are no salmon yet in the Shuswap River.

Name: Brew
Location: Skagit
Date Posted: 25-Jul-99
went to the Skagit today.Very difficult to find a run to fish or to have access to wade. River very high still and slightly colored.Should be in good condition in late Aug.

Name: Skagit slayer
Location: Ross/Skagit
Date Posted: 24-Jul-99
The lake is finally up on the Canadian side. Fishing is slow because the water flowing into the lake is brown. I say it would be prime in about two-three weeks!

Name: ian
Email: ian_steelheader1@hotmail.com
Location: chehalis
Date Posted: 24-Jul-99
went to the chehalis yesterday and worked everything from the canyon to the hatchery hole.used small roe sacs did not get one thing except for a small cutty.i give my friend rtan credit for getting a nice summer run by the hatchery.about 8# on a red white wool combo.river was up but had good visibility. tight lines ian

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 23-Jul-99
Well y'all, managed to get a shaky 3 hours of fishing on the Vedder today. Had a long night last night, and was quite tired, plus other circumstances such as my sun burn, the lack of fish we were getting on (None today for me or my friend) and the fact that my friends Calcutta tightened up and stopped working smoothly because it is in need of a cleaning/reoiling/taking apart prevented us from having a good fishing day. Anyways, prospects are shaping up to be good for next week. I noticed the river rised slightly from yesterday to today, probably about 3-4 inches, as I remember focusing on a certain set of rocks at the ranger run pool today and they were a little more under water today. Anyways, worked the same thing as yesterday. River is still quite clear and theres room for it to get clearer. The lower river again, isn't as clear, and I'd say the river is still 2 feet above a normal high. Anyways, I'm not going to babble on about my report as it is quite similar to yesterdays and I'm quite bagged. Just some notes for those of you out there. SOCKEYE DON'T TAKE SPOONS, at least not as much as other Salmon will. If you're going for Sockeye, dont use Spoons (and remember to release them gently). Stick with the brighter upper colors as the river is clear. If I was you, I'd stick with the highly famed red/white wool combo on a 24-36 inch leader. Make sure you use just enough pencil lead to knick bottom when you float fish. If you're fishing really deep water, bottom bouncing is my suggestion. I saw 4 springs at the hatchery today, 3 males, 1 females, 1 of them was about 16 pounds. I saw a nice size male Spring rise to either eat something (as some Fresh run Salmon are known to do during their runs) or rise to attack something, about 50 feet downstream from me. I saw another Sockeye in the water further down earlier on. The Springs will sit on the bottom and just have a few brewskis there, so get your stuff on the bottom, thats all I have to say! I really only worked a few colors today red/white, orange, and some pink, thats all. I'd personally say dont move to green wool (which is known to work for Springs) until white springs in October. Anyways people, Sockeye=weak water not super deep all the time, but not super shallow Springs=Deep water, medium-fast current. I know for a fact, that theres a ton of Springs sitting under the rapids at the Ranger run, Theres just no way humanly possible unless you got a weight you use for down riggers, that you can get down to them. Talk to you later, good luck on the river, and keep posting em, Scott.

Name: Salmonslayer
Email: djacklin@netcom.ca
Location: Pt.Atkinson
Date Posted: 23-Jul-99
Coho/Pinks,chovey/white&pearl Hootchie.Also try pink apex.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 22-Jul-99
By the way, from what I've seen, there are probably close to twice the amount of Sockeye to Springs in the Vedder, just a note, be gentle with them, and release them unharmed. It shouldn't be a fight to get them in quick with your spring gear, and then release them quick. If you're by yourself, take the tension off your line and the fish should be able to shake free, if you're with someone make sure they know to wet their hands and dehook them in the water and send them on their way. The fact that you're using Spring gear which translates into an easier fight for you should greatly help their mortality rates. Anyways everyone, head out to the Vedder and give it a shot, you never know what can happen in oh, a day, if you saw what happened to me last week, you'd agree, my buddies get a few Springs a day and two days after I hit the Vedder! Good luck, Scott.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 22-Jul-99
Just got home from a long day at the Vedder, about oh, I'd say I fished about a good 7-8 hours on the Vedder today. Arrived at aroun 9 dismorning at where else, but the Ranger run with my two buddies from work. River is high as it has been, but its lowered quite a bit from last week, probably only about 2 feet above a "NORMAL" Vedder high. River was surprisingly Clear compared to last week, which to use made the prospects good. About oh 4-5 feet of visibilty, more if you squint. Before we wet our lines saw a nice size Sockeye in the water swimming along the Shorelines. Kinda gets things exciting to see fish, as it would any angler. Anyways Start fishing with red/white wool on 3 foot leaders and a fair amount of pencil lead as the current is still quite strong in the middle and the side current, where most of the fish hold is fairly strong. Started by float fishing, then bottom bouncing. Then worked some size #5 colorado Spinners under a float, Current was too strong, so unless I used a ton of weight, they wouldn't be effectively placed in the strike zone for a long enough time, so I said scrap spinners for the rest of the day. Anyways, while my friends continued fishing at the ranger run, I made my way up along the river scouting the river for back eddies, holding water, weaker steadier water, just somewhere else I could fish. If I didn't note before, the water near the ranger run and above is a lot clearer compared to the lower reaches of the Vedder, this is something we noticed on the trip up on chilliwack road. Anyways, made my way up to the boulder run and fished before the backwater and casted accross (bottom bounced) with red/white wool to the calmer water on the other side of the super strong rapids. Worked it quite exentsively, ensuring my weigh was going nuts on the bottom, to no avail, BUNK! NOTHING. Theres a back eddy just below this spot that is under a small cliff, I was going to fish it but I couldn't see anything in it, and the forest also made casting difficult. Anyways, I walked my ass off to the hatchery around a KM away I'd say and fished there for a while. Current was strong, fished red/white wool and tryed some green wool as well and then switched to black to see if it might provoke something in the springs. I fished behind a big rock just slightly lower down from the confluence with Slesse Creek as this big rock provides holding water for all fish, as I've seen Steelhead caught behind it before, anyways, I tryed adjusting my leader lengthes, float distance, bottom bouncing behind it, but theres just no fish that want to take it. I think the Springs have lockjaw. Took a quick stroll up to the hatchery after I worked this spot, and Saw NO FISH! in the channel what so ever. Thats pretty disappointing. Anyways, walked back to the Ranger run, my buddies and I were hungry for some lunch as we hit the river without breakfast (Its the excitement ok?). Had a nice Steelheader combo at the Vedder crossing cafe (Hey, big deal if you eat two pancakes, two piecs of bacon and eggs at 1 in the day ok??). Refueled up, and headed our asses back up river to a spot just above Alison pool on the kinda steep rock wall that lines the river at the base of where the river channels off into a back water and a front water. There was a good pool here just before the back water (well not pool but consistent water with slower flow that we managed to figure out the fish would hold in). My buddy manages to nab the spot right in the middle of it, and he lands an 8-9 pound Sockeye. This fish is kinda chrome but on the verge of turning red, but still a good color, kinda like a Steelhead but with no spots and a lighter blue top half. Really nice looking fish, and thats quite big for a sockeye just to note. This same guy managed to land a 10 pounder last week. Anyways, he quickly released it as he should and we fished there for a while, but had no luck after that. Anyways, decied to head back up to the ranger run, saw quite a few anglers there. Oh, by the way, managed to watch an angler fight a snag that he thought was a fish earlier in the day at the range run, he fought the float jittering under the water for a good 10 minutes, had a good snicker about that one, and no i'm not making fun of him because he is a rookie, cause he didn't appear to be. Anyways, back to the report, went back to the ranger run around 4 today, saw quite a few anglers there, around 4-5 which is a lot for this time of year in that spot. Saw a bigger guy with a Centerpin reel/rod (softer action), who was sitting in the former pool of the Ranger run against the cliffs, and he was bottom bouncing and casting accross the river. If you go to this spot during the high water of the Vedder right now, you will notice the main section of the water is quite swift and powerful, but on the other side of the river, its quite calmer and theres a slight back eddy which to me and any other angler says fish holding water. Anyways, this guy manages to land two sockeye. He had the spot dead center of the cliff which was the best spot. He landed about a 3-4 pounder (Jack Sockeye slayer) which he had someone quickly release for him and he also managed to land a 9-10 pound Sockeye, again, these fish are that light tinge of a red chrome, kinda like a STeelhead without Spots. Anyways from the Sockeye I've seen so far, I'd say a few things, the Sockeye in the vedder, although we dont mean to target them, are quite big and if you get one on you'll probably think its a spring. I mean maybe call this a fluke, but I've heard of/seen 3 8-10 pound Sockeye landed and only one around 4 pounds? Thats quite large. Anyways, I heard of/saw no Springs in the river despite its recent clearing up. Went into freds and they haven't heard any major reports of Springs. All in all I got a sunburn today (I gotta put on some damn aloe Vera), and I didn't catch Jack you know what. I guess you can call me a Jack Sockeye Slayer, guess what, there are no Jack Sockeye, EXACTLY! Anyways, pretty bunk day in general, I mean you'd think of my buddies and I, who are not idiots and my buddies have fished the vedder quite a long time with a lot of success red springing/steelheading, we would have caught something. I mean apparently this spring run this year is supposed to be a bit smaller, but this red spring run is fairly non existent, and spotty all in all. Last year it was apparently quite different,and exactly the opposite. Anyways, got pretty fed up with these guys at the ranger run who kept casting accross the river not looking at the fact that the shallow water accross river doesn't hold any fish in it, and then they'd arrogantly run their lines all the way down river not thinking that theres other anglers too. I mean, dont get me wrong, I'm not saying I'm some huge expierienced angler nor do I manage to be polite to everyone all the time, but these guys need a slap accross the face with the fishing synopsis this year on angling etiquette. Just a note, If you're going to fish down from the Ranger run pool, a bit, and fish the actual ranger run. Fish right in front of your face. This is the deepest water in the run. Fish this from 4 feet out, all the way to 30 feet out (where the stronger current is but it shallows off). Another note, I have concluded from the amount of sockeye caught on the other side of the ranger run pool that I saw today, that the Springs are either not there, or underneath the white water in the depths of the pool where the water calms down a bit, the only problem I had when I tried to fish the rapids was it was so swift it would carry my stuff far down river before allowing it to sink, even with a ton of weight! Anyways, I'm sorry for my very long detailed report, just trying to help anyone out by being specific. I dont like saying "caught one, lost two" It just doesn't sound right or even the slightest bit educated. Talk to you all later, and I'll try again at the Vedder tommorrow. Scott.

Name: Dan
Email: fishbonker@hotmail.com
Location: Squamish River
Date Posted: 21-Jul-99
Well the Squamish just keeps getting bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger and bigger.It's bigger than it was last November,when it was blown due to heavy rainfall,and she was awful big then.So,forget about findin'a nice little beach,where you can sit and fish a nice little part of the river,'cause there aint no nice little parts left.The nice parts are an honest 200yds.away,and 4'deep.Hopefully,it'll come down to a nice little roar,before too long.

Name: Mike
Email: rgass@rapidnet.net
Location: Ross Lake
Date Posted: 21-Jul-99
Last time I was at Ross on July 1st there was no lake on the Canadain side just a large river. I called Skagit Valley info. at 869-7080 and they said that the lake is now at fool pool. Has anyone been up there lately.

Name: Spooled
Email: trout@epsross.com
Location: Tofino
Date Posted: 21-Jul-99
Went to the West coast for coho's. Had minimal success but we did find them off the classic, Catface. It's my first year out there and was wondering if anyone would like to compare notes in an effort to improve our success rate. If so, email me back. Cheers

Name: Johnny
Email: johnnyseven@hotmail.com
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 20-Jul-99
Fished the top end this evening(ranger run). Wow what a current through the gut of the run. I managed to hook 1 fish. I assume it was a big spring by the power it showed but that current can do some funny things even with small fish. I did land a whitefish(wahoo!!) What can I say, I'm desperate. I also saw quite a few sockeyes rolling by the far bank. I'll be out tomorrow morning either up top or between the rail bridge and power lines(on the yarrow side). There are a tonne of trout around anxious to take the fly if there are no springs around. what a rough life...

Name: Dan
Email: fishbonker@hotmail.com
Location: Squamish
Date Posted: 20-Jul-99
Billy boy,there is nothing nice about dodgin'loggin' trucks,just to get up there and find that the Elaho is blown as well,nice try bubba,but I do know where them fishies hides,and it aint that far up river,but if you like drivin' that far........nice day.

Name: Billy
Location: Cheakamus/Squamish
Date Posted: 19-Jul-99
Hey, Dan (fishbonker), Squamish is O.K. if you know where to go. Try mile 39 at the bridge that crosses the river-just watch out for Sunwolf Rafting Co...they'll stomp your fishing excursion real good and they say they're out there every weekend!

Name: SteveO
Location: Stump Lk.
Date Posted: 19-Jul-99
Fished Stump yesterday. Weather was great, not much wind but only managed to hook three fish, all on green chironomids. Lots of guys fishing.

Name: The Happy Hooker
Location: Capilano
Date Posted: 19-Jul-99
Went to the Cap this morning to do a little fishing before going to work. While we were fishing we were approached by 2 RCMP officers who advised us that we were not allowed to fish before 8:00 AM.and that if we don't leave we would have our vehicles towed. Needless to say, that precipitated a rather heated "discussion". One cop was simply pig headed (pardon the pun); he would not listen to reason nor would he call his supervisor for a ruling. He was a power tripper:he was the law simple as that. That guy has a lot to learn before he earns the respect of the badge. The other cop was a little more reasonable. He tried reaching someone at the hatchery and I think he called the duty officer. A compromise was reached as we were allowed to fish this morning. Who knows about tomorrow ! PS. Although I hooked 3 cohos my experience with that jerk left a bad taste with me. A word of caution to those who are early risers !!!! PS. Although I hooked 3 cohos.

Name: Springbonker
Email: buck@hotmail.com
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 18-Jul-99
Scotty, just wondering a little something? Have you caught anything this year YET? Time,it looks like, is not on your side, my friend. We were out this morning, on the river by 6:15am(Alison Pool),and were forced to fish the rather fast tailout, due to earlier risers than us.What alucky break,3 of us fishing, back in the truck with 6 slabs on ice,and headed for the Tomahawk for breaky at 8:00am.Best Breakfast in the lower mainland.Puttin' the smoke to em' tomorrow.

Name: Pedue
Location: Vetter
Date Posted: 18-Jul-99
Went to Vetter Saturday morning; early. Didnt see antything untill 10:00 or so. The guys across the river from me landed 3 in a hour or so, while I had 3 or 4 strikes. I'll be back next week, in the same spot, halfway between the hatchery and the cannall. Saw alot of people fishing the cannall today.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 16-Jul-99
Well y'all, a tribute to my friends, who camped out at the Vedder these past two days. They managed to land about 5-6 springs (3 each) and quite a few Sockeye. I'm not gonna say how they did it, or what they caught it on, as I know one of my friends who I work with and works with them (we all work at the same place) will tell them after viewing this page, and I'll get shit for telling everyone. They went to Freds, and no one has reported anything for a few days, nor did they see anyone else who managed to catch anything other then them. But they still caught a few Springs. They didn't catch them in any pool, or anything like that, they caught them in very stained water conditions, and in fairly fast current. How do you know I'm not lying? Well I was working today, and one of my friends came in with "the goods" aka a nice 10 pound Spring that he kept, and filleted at work. All I gotta say, and my word of advice is, do whatever it takes, to get your presentation, on the bottom. Kenny Kristians been telling you all along, the fish are noted for being bottom lovers. Hope this helps, Scott.

Name: Dan
Email: fishbonker@hotmail.com
Location: Squamish system
Date Posted: 15-Jul-99
Every bit of er'is ragin'through the trees.Spent half the evening drivin'all over the lower valley,lookin'for a nice peaceful spot,maybe when it drops A HUNDRED FEET.Mamquam,full steam ahead,Cheakamus,same way.Chek and Mamquam,running strong but reasonably clear,but about 10' bigger than normal.Should start to drop,by NOVEMBER.

Name: Randog
Email: rbeck@intergate.bc.ca
Location: Capilano R.
Date Posted: 15-Jul-99
Fished the white water just below the cable pool hooked several coho and beached two, used "00" single orange Jensen eggs and a bit of peach wool bottom bounced with a 6 foot 8lb. leader with #2 gammies.

Name: Greg Leche
Email: steelheader@angelfire.com
Location: Tunkwa/Leighton Lakes
Date Posted: 15-Jul-99
Friend and I fished Tunkwa and Leighton. Fishing was slow at Tunkwa and managed only one fish each and I lost a couple. Went to Leighton for the next couple of days and landed 3 on the first day there. The next day I lost 2 fish and my friend caught 3. Most consistent flies were small #16 Brown Chironomids, Burgundy Leechs and small Tan Caddis pupas. Overall the fishing was quite slow.

Name: randog
Email: rbeck@intergate.bc.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 15-Jul-99
Fished the vedder yesterday, WHAT A JOKE!!! I wetted my line at the ranger run, allison pool the meat hole tamahi and Lickman rd. tried #5 colorados, wool & roe but did'nt role a fish all day talked to a few other guys but no fish either, figure I'll give it a break for a week or so and hopefully the water cond. will get better. Guess I'll try the Chehalis this weekend.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 14-Jul-99
Well, went to the Vedder today, not very busy on the river at all!! Saw maybe 3 other anglers other then me, and my buddy and bro. Anyways, river has risen as people have said, about half a foot higher than last week when I went. Anyways, arrived at the actual hatchery, no fish in the hatchery yet! Started our adventure (or should I say misadventure) at the Ranger run. Current was pretty strong and all around consistent. About 2 1/2 feet of visibility all around. Started fishing black yarn with lots of lead (around 3-4 inches) on 3 foot leaders and made sure I got it to the bottom. Worked the sides of the main current as the main current was quite strong. NO luck, then fished the other side of the river where the current was alittle weaker (long casts). I might, might, might, have had a strike, although I'm not sure, as my weight was hitting the bottom pretty furiously over there, and it made my rod go nuts! Anyways, the stained water conditions, and black yarn didn't seem to appeal to the fishes need to attack my presentation, so I said scrap it! After an hour and a half of working the Ranger run, moved down to the lower river where the current was a bit more consistent all around and fairly steady, although obviosly the river was still high. Its not as fast as people say or think it is, but fast enough. About a 1foot and a half to 2 feet of visibility down on the lower river. Drove down the lickman road side path that leads a bit lower down the river and parked near that run down campfire on the river dykes at the end. Walked down trails to about 200 metres downstream of the train bridge. River is very wide, and fairly consistent in depth all around, so it gives the fish all the advantage. I'd seriously recommend barfishing this spot as the fish are very scattered I'm sure. Started with black wool, worked the river started in front of us first then casting out farther and farther. Then changed to black/red, then I changed to white, then, green. Again, I worked each color as best I could in all spots throughout the river. No hits, nothing. Saw a few anglers accross from me (2) and they had no luck as well and they were using Pink and orange. I made sure I was working the bottom thorougly and my drift was slightly slower than the river as I used a lot of weight.I then cut the leader a off at my swivel and then put a size 4 green capped silver spin n glo on it and then retied to my swivel. Tryed that for a while, nothing, I then tryed a #65 Kitimat silver/blue gibbs spoon. Man that thing has action in the current, but again, nothing. Anyways, I think you all get my drift..No luck today. Tough river to fish. The only spot I can think of that might might might be descent, is maybe allison pool, beause the river narrows significantly there and its fairly swift but consistent current. This is why this is a good steelhead spot, and might work out for a spring spot as well. You just have to be able to cross the backwater. I was gonna fish this spot today, but my buddy didn't bring his waders, so he wouldn't have been able to cross the backwater (which now you'll need waders for I'm sure). Anyways y'all, this run sure has been dissappointing. I'm not hearing many reports of fish being taken. We can only hope that all the fish at the test fishery this past weekend will show up sometime soon in the vedder. The high water must be confusing the fishes instincts, or something like that, or they're having a tea party in all that extra water out there until all their buddies arrive. The Fraser is apparently really high again. Not flooding, but I'd guess around 5.5. Anyways y'all, I'm going to the Vedder next week on the 22nd as I'm sure you all know. I'm gonna fish there early in the morning for a few hours, and if nothing happens, I'm gonna hit Emory creek for a while in the Canyon, and if nothing happens there, I'm moving to the Chehalis. I hope this water goes down a lot, and it clears up. We might be able to catch something! Anyways, keep posting em boys, hope we all catch the big one sometime soon...Scott.

Name: Greg
Email: gnoske@home.com
Location: Fraser River
Date Posted: 14-Jul-99
Well my biggest sturgeon yet, 7.5ft long. WOW what a catch it was. Took us at least 1/2hr to land it. Just about spooled me right out with almost 300yrd's of line. Took some great pictures for the photo album. We also caught one 3ft with only one eye. Pretty weird, looks like it has been that way since birth. I sure am looking forward to go Sockeye fishing as there were lots jumping out there. Lots of seals chowing down. Untill next time...............

Name: Jay M
Email: jmenlove@aol.com
Location: Port Renfrew
Date Posted: 14-Jul-99
Just got back from Pt. Renfrew. Caught 5 Kings in 2 1/2 days. Lost 3 to broken line and leaders.We caught them in Owens Point to camper creek area. We caught one 32lb. another 22lb, and the rest in teens

Name: Randog
Email: rbeck@intergate.bc.ca
Location: Vedder/Chehalis
Date Posted: 13-Jul-99
Went to the Vedder river today fished at Slesse park, water was unfishable, way too high and fast I couldnt get a good drift. Went down to Peach rd. because I figured the river might be in better condition, WRONG! tried it for about half an hour and left and went to the Chehalis, the water is in great cond. but no springs or summer runs' I hooked 2 rainbows and thats it.WERE IN THE HELL ARE ALL THE BIG REDS???????

Name: Rick
Location: Fraser R. / Scott
Date Posted: 13-Jul-99
Hey, Scott. Better leave Van. real early so you can get a spot before all the rest of the unemployed get there. I've got friends in the canyon where I can get up and drive 5 mins. to my spot. Hit 2 in Emory first light, a word of advice is to get a zodiac and just float around the clean and canyon waters. Went down to see what was happening at Yale. Way to many anglers for a small area, but if you hit that right day you'll never know if anyone will even show up. Seen 2 jacks strike there. Allsome sunny day, what the hick, went and had some whobbblllyyy popppppsss to end a great day. Good luck.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Canyon
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Rick, where on the fraser canyon did you fish? I'm considering fishing Emory Creek for Springs sometime later on this month possibly if the Vedder isn't producing, or I'm not producing, either or. Haven't fished the cap in days, but that snowpack is definitely coming off, and the river is maintaing a quite high flow from the dam. Everyday at 7 they let the dam go, so from your own advice, fishing for you would be good around 7 and a little bit after when the river rises. Anyways, good luck to all, hope you all catch the big one! Scott.

Name: Rick
Location:
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Fished the Fraser Canyon, hit two on Sunday with a kit a mat. Anyone fished the Cap lately? Want to do a little evening fish. Looks like the sockeye are starting to move in. Looking forward for good showing in Aug. Hope the river comes down so at least some the bars show up.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Jim, buddy, i'm not looking for an excuse, you get skunked, who cares, it doesn't mean you're a horrible person. Anyways, I'm definitely going this wednesday. I got an email from a very well known Fraser Valley buddy of mine, who says he knows a guy whos getting them Vedder Springs like Crazy, on a technique that is completely unorthrodox to the Vedder river, yet very common to other rivers. This guy is fishing using what fishes the particular spot best, and hes following the rules of the river very well. I'll give you a hint: Dark water : Darker/larger presentations. I dont care if the Vedder has raised 6 feet, a day fishing and getting skunked, and at least being blessed with the fact that your line is in the water with 20 plus pound fish, who are looking to attack your presentation, is alot better than sitting on my ass all day doing nothing. I must be married to the fish! Scott.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Loon Lake
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Whoever asked about loon lake, My buddy, when he goes up with friends to Mowich lake every year, has fished Loon lake a few times on the way, and he said like you have, that the fish jump like crazy, to the point where they almost jump in your boat. He said hes only gotten a few fish there, mainly on some fly, I can't remember, but if I'm right, he said after a day of fishing there, that he noticed all the people who were catching bows, were using wedding bands. I'd give those a try, Hope this helps, other then that, I dont know much about the lake in terms of Camping, or stuff like that. Scott.

Name: JS
Email: jan@youachieve.com
Location: Look Lake, Blue Lake
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Drove up to Loon Lake for the day on Sunday. Fish were jumping like crazy, some even right onto the dock. No kidding! A young girl picked up a 16" Rainbow that jumped right onto the dock. Talk about luck. Drove by a sign for Blue Lake Resort, a private lake. Can anybody give me any information for this Lake in terms of a family spot, good for kids, fishing, camping, facilities ? Thanks.

Name: Jim
Email: jpapadou@direct.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Scotty, to put it in your terms, I got SKUNKED. The water conditions, as you clearly know, are a pretty important factor to consider when you are fishing. I fished only in the lower river. All the people I spoke to did not get anything either. Let us know if you go Scott. I would wait. Tight Lines!!

Name: Cory
Email: webwill@infinet.net
Location:
Date Posted: 12-Jul-99
Went to the Chehelis for a couple of hours last night on the way back from Chilliwak- no fish - It a shitty trip all the way around- watch your vehicles if you go out there- we had our truck broken into right in front of the hatchery- they got about $1500 dollars worth of stuff- apparently there have been a lot of break ins at the campground there- words of warning - don't leave anything visible in your car- these guys took bags of clothes- everthing they could carry. !

Name: E-Z LIMIT
Email: ezlimit@hotmail.com
Location: Capilano
Date Posted: 11-Jul-99
New backing,new line,new fly.Fished the trailer park side,for an hour and a half,before I got the boot from the natives,and hit 3 fish on that coho blue,but landed none.

Name: Jim
Email: jpapadou@direct.ca
Location: Vedder/Chilliwack
Date Posted: 11-Jul-99
Fished the Vedder today. Wow, the river has come up at least three feet since midweek. Hard to find a good spot because the water is right back into the trees in many spots. I did not feel like wading into water moving at 100 mph!! I has about 5" of lead on just to slow things down a bit. Visibility was not the greatest either. I guess that snow is finally melting. I think I will leave the Vedder for a couple of weeks. Tight lines.

Name: Cutthroatless
Email: amber_egg@hotmail.com
Location: Goat Lake and Powell Area
Date Posted: 11-Jul-99
Lois Lake and Small dragonfly nymphs (#10 2x) have been very successful this week - all under 14 inchs though. The Powell River lake system is slow this summer, and with fisherman having most lakes to themselfs; I was hoping to see more info posted for this area. Thank You

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder/Cap
Date Posted: 11-Jul-99
Hows the Vedder doing, anyone getting anything? I assume its lowered, but how much? I'm probably gonna go tuesday most likely or wednesday. I went to the cable pool yesterday for half an hour, river was super high, they let the dam go every day at 7pm, and then they'll ease it off around 8 and then let it go again. Saw one guy with a 3 pound Coho on the rocks. I fished for like 25 minutes, I just didnt' have the attention span for fishing yesterday as I had a long working day, and was quite tired. I fished the boundary on that rock. I'll keep you all posted, Scott.

Name: E-Z LIMIT
Email: ezlimit@hotmail.com
Location: Mouth of the Capilano
Date Posted: 9-Jul-99
Just got back from fishing the mouth of the Cap.If you guys saw a guy having a blast with the flyrod,that was me.Hit 3 small coho,on a fly called a coho blue,in the first 30 minutes I was there.The biggest was about 4lbs.Then I hit something,way too big for my 6wt.Had it on for about 15-20min.,never even got a look,I think it must have been a spring,just not sure.Broke me off at the backing,oh well,needed some fresh stuff anyway.I was fishing the Ambleside beach side,of the breakwater.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: capilano
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Rick and Cory, I think the Springs might be starting to trickle in right now along with the bigger fish. If you go to the Hatchery and take a look in the tank, you can see quite a few large fish in there, They could be Coho. I tryed looking into the tank because I could see spots on their upper portion of their bodies, but I was trying to see if they had a fully spotted tail (which springs have) and not a half to 1/4 of the upper portion of the tail which Coho have. I couldn't see any, although I did see quite a few nice size suckers in the tank, around 10 pounds. Seeing the spotting on their tails is difficult because of the tank lighting though. I'd imagine right now there would be some jacks in the Cap. Hopefully the run picks up, it seems to have kinda relaxed in these past few days, as I went yesterday to the Cap early in the morning til about 12, and I saw about 20 other anglers at the cable pool and no.1 bridge combined, and not one person had a strike and they were all using roe, and the usual yarn flys, etc. Well, hope it picks up y'all..good luck, Scott.

Name: Cory
Email: webwill@infinet.net
Location: Capilano
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Fished the Cap from 6-30 to 9 at and below the #1 bridge- nothing- say several other fisherman there they did about as well. There were lots of kayakers- probably didn't help much.

Name: Rick
Location: Cap
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Went to the Cap for a evening fish. Seen about a 6lbs on the beach. I didn`t even get a hit, looks like the bigger fish might be slowly swimming in. Hit Sayers Lake on the weekend and didn`t even see a thing except the fish being trucked up to the trucks.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Fished the Vedder today, the upper river, I'm an upper river junkie as you can say, started at the ranger run with my buddy and my bro, worked the sides of the rapids, and the shores, as it was about 3 feet higher than usual with about 3 feet of visibility give or take a few inches here or there. No luck. The water is so big in the upper river as in wide and very consistent in current flow that the Chinooks have lots of water to hold in. Theres no back shore water going up the river where you would expect to find them, and of the water I could find that looked good, it was in tight spots to cast in. Started with no.5 colorado spinners on about 3 foot leaders, which should get it in the striking range of the Springs like mr. Ez limit suggested, they like to hangout on the bottom. Also tryed red/white wool, and I did work some white wool later on. Whatever spot I was at, I worked extensively though..and covered the whole water. Fished the boulder run as well, no luck there, I got SKUNKED. Went to Mcdicks around 11:30 and we had the option of going to the lower river which I rarely or never do, or going to the Mouth of the Coquihalla, maybe I should have went to the lower river as Mr. EZ limit appeared to have almost EZ limited out, but we tryed the Mouth of the Coq too. Lots of bar fishermen there, also lots and lots of flys, I got attacked by at least 30 flys the whole time I was there. Bar fishermen weren't catching anything. I elected to float fish with white wool at first, and then worked some green wool No luck on that, and then I started bottom bouncing with a croc spoon that was a nice shade of lime green which the Springs love ever so much....Long day, the Fraser is still at 5.26 metres which doesn't help anyone, and its still quite dirty in most places. These fish definitely have the advantage right now. All I know, is on thursday July 22nd, the fish shall feel my presence. I believe the river should be down to its normal levels by then I'd assume. This should be good for all of us. I usually work 4 specific things for Springs, all on 3 foot leaders, as Yarn isn't super buoyant, so it will be near the bottom where the Springs are, I work red/white wool, white wool, and a nice shade of light green wool with sometimes white mixed in, and then I'll work colorado spinners. I'm considering trying some red/black as well, and in descent size chunks of it. Anyways, good luck to you all, and Maybe I'll see some of you folks out at the ranger run one day...right now, the upper river is bunk though. Scott.

Name: E-Z Limit
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Went out this morning to fish the Vedder,and still found it high.Landed down on the lower river,and managed 3 nice Jacks,and lost 1 biggun'.Tough to get out to where the fish are holding,wading staff very good idea.once you're there,white wool about the size of your thumbnail,suspended about a foot or so off the bottom.Takes were nice and strong though,felt them long before the float moved.I won't fish it again,till she comes down some,bit too dangerous by ones self.

Name: Tyteline
Email: david@caravel.bc.ca
Location: Hihium Lk.
Date Posted: 8-Jul-99
Just got back from 3 days at Hihium. I took my 11 year old nephew on his 1st fishing trip. He did very well. He was trolling yellow and brown hot shots and caught several nice 'bows. The guys on the fly were doing extrememly well on green chironomids, black gills monsters and various leeches, all down deep. I longed for my float tube. The weather sucked. The fishing was great. It's always rewarding to see someone catch their 1st !

Name: E-Z LIMIT
Email: Get a LIFE@skunky.com
Location: River Fishin'
Date Posted: 7-Jul-99
Scott,my buddies are catching fish on the Capilano like they're going out of style,fishing the faster stuff and the pocket water,using combinations of chartreusse wool,with almost anything else.Try some small pink worms as well.

Name: Greg Noske
Email: gnoske@home.com
Location: Roche lake /Merrit
Date Posted: 7-Jul-99
Just got back from Roche lake. What a blast, too bad though we got rained out. Fished most of the day Wednesday. Caught one in the morning, around 1.5lbs. Trolled most of the lake and nothing. Fished the afternoon just in front of where we were camping and caught a 3lb rainbow. Went back out early in the evening just in front of us and caught 7 all around 2lbs. Not allot of people up there as it was the middle of the week. these fish were very bright crome and very fat. Brought one home to eat should taste good. Thinking about going out sturgeon fishing. If I do I'll let you know how I made out........

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Capilano River
Date Posted: 7-Jul-99
Went to the Cap river today, fished the west bank of the no.1 bridge, river was high the whole time as they let the dam go because of the rain. About 10 other anglers there that day total aside from me and my bro in the same proximity as us, fished from 7:15 til 10:30, no fish, no signs of fish, nothing, from anyone. I used Pink yarn and also Pink or white yarn with jensen Eggs. Went to the Cable pool at 10:30, saw about 8 other anglers, they all appeared to be heavily using roe, as I saw many of them with large roe bags, so large that I doubt a coho of that size could fit it in their mouthes. Fished there for an hour and a half (walked down the stairs and crossed waste deep water to the bottom part). No luck again, no signs of fish at all from anyone. Pretty crappy rainy day. My buddy went to the Vedder, and it was pouring like you wouldn't believe, and he said not very many anglers were there, river was very high, canal was VERY high as it is most likely backwater from the Fraser. He fished there for a little bit but then scrapped it and left for the Chehalis, He said he went to the Chehalis, looked at the water, it was high, and flooding the trees (as it often does when its high and raining) and it was super dirty, so he didn't even wet a line there, and came home. He also said the Vedder was dirty, although it didn't appear to be from the clay banks, but more from the heavy rain, and it was about a foot or so of visibility. No fish in the hatchery or caught at the hatchery spot either. Anyways y'all, I'm heading out to the Vedder tommorrow with that same buddy, hopefull the river will be in better shape possibly, a little clearer, and hopefully it will be sunny. I'll keep you all posted, Scott.

Name: Jim
Email: jpapadou@direct.ca
Location: Fraser
Date Posted: 7-Jul-99
Has anyone fished the North Arm of the Fraser for Chinook? Do any Chinook run through the North Arm, or would I be wasting my time? Thanks.

Name: Don Hicks
Email: hicks@wwu.edu
Location: Chehalis
Date Posted: 6-Jul-99
Fished the Chehalis on Monday from the campground down past the hatchery. Had a steelhead attack a spoon in the logs at the beginning of the branch below the hatchery. Other than that very little happening. Water much lower that during June and very clear. Got a 10lb steelhead two weeks ago in the big campground drift below the bridge.

Name: John Higgy
Email: higgy@direct.ca
Location: Chehalis and Vedder
Date Posted: 5-Jul-99
Fished the Chehalis and Vedder on Sunday and have this to report.Chehalis is high and clear with no fish and few fisherman. We had the boyscout run to ourselves. The hatchery run had a few guy on it.Saw two guy go into the canyon.On the Vedder we saw no fish again. Fished around the claybanks and Lickman pool. Lots of guys at the pool but few were up river. Water was high and flowing hard. Will be good if the fish show up.

Name: Anonymous
Location: Capilano River
Date Posted: 5-Jul-99
Just returned from the Cap. Hooked 4 landed 1. Saw two other cohos committed suicide

Name: Cooper Lange
Location: Whistler Area
Date Posted: 5-Jul-99
July 3,1999 Showh Lake-Fishing was slow, got a couple of strikes on size two chartreuse Panther Martins, not recommended Cougar Lake-Try a chartreuse Panther Martin by the wooden float tube launch, good around 4:30 to 5:30 PM July 4,1999 Loggers Lake-Try the smallest orange scuds on the shore across from the talus slope, again, try the evening bite

Name: Greg Noske
Email: gnoske@home.com
Location: Ross
Date Posted: 4-Jul-99
Well I have found out that Ross lake has been drained down 30-40ft. So I am thinking of going up to Roche or Rouche lake just passed Merrit. Any info on this lake before We leave Monday night would be very appreciated. I am using Fly's by the way. Thanks in advance..............

Name: Greg Leche
Email: steelheader@angelfire.com
Location: Vedder River
Date Posted: 3-Jul-99
Just got back from the Vedder this morning. Didn't see any fish and everyone I talked to didn't see anything as well. Still a little early for Springs. The lower river is high and a little mirky but still about 1 or 2 feet of visibility.

Name: Tim
Email: jpl043@hotmail.com
Location: RICK and Scott
Date Posted: 2-Jul-99
Hey, thanks a lot guys for your help (rick and scott). I'll try what you guys told me but before that I just have a few more questions. What size of a weight should I be using? (inches) And also, can I use any kind of roe or do I have to use a special kind, because gas station roe is the most convenient for me and I was wondering if I could just use that kind? And last of all, I once purchased roe and had a hell of a time putting it on and keeping it on, I was wondering if there is an effective knot that I have to tie in order to keep the roe on properly, I know that you have to replace now and then but just wonder how often, and what size pieces I should be cutting it into? Hopefully you guys will be able to help me tonight because I plan on using these techniques tommorrow morning when I go down near the bridge. Thanks Tim. (P.S. I seem to be confused on where you say is a good spot. I think I know where it is but perhaps you could clarify this with me. Directly undre the #1 bridge there is a pool. Then under that there is some rapids then a pool below that too. Are you talking about in the middle of the rapids where it seems to slow down a bit and where on if your on the east side of the river there are a few big rocks on the other side with little amount of current. Is that the spot that your talking about?)

Name: Rick
Location:
Date Posted: 2-Jul-99
Was suppose to fish the Vedder this weekend, just got back. For anyone who wants to go, don`t bother it`s a little early I think. Even went up to the mouth of the Coq. Apparently there has been a few caught in the canyon, I think not. I think the Fraser R. is even coming up realll fast. Hey, anybody fish the Chehalis, rumour has it that there has been a few reds already. Might hit the Cap tomorrow or pull out the old float tube and head for the lake untill this damn rain stops floading our rivers.

Name: randog
Email: rbeck@intergate.bc.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 2-Jul-99
Just got back from the Vedder (soaking wet) fished it hard from the train bridge to Slesse cr. did'nt see a fish, roll a fish or smell a fish. Water was too high and fast and I dont think the springs are in yet, maybe another week or so?

Name: Greg De Vries
Email: gnl@uniserve.com
Location:
Date Posted: 1-Jul-99
Hello folks. I have recently bought a boat and am looking to outfit it for ocean fishing. My goals are to fish for salmon, rockfish and halibut. I know that is a lot but I am very sincere in learning each of these fisheries. I am in need of lots of help. First I need to know what people would recommend in terms of good all round gear for these types of fishing. rods, reels, downriggers, depth sounder. what do i need and what types should i get? I plan to buy used gear, in which case what should i look out for? Where are some good spots to fish (specifically, i know the names but not the locations) and are there any free boat launches? I would appreciate any and all help and advice. In terms of the Vedder, I was out there this morning and the river was running wild. Do not waste your time out there yet. After the Vedder I went out to Kawkawa Lk and pulled in two kokanee. great fish, but pretty slow.

Name: Ken Kristian
Email: kkrist@uniserve.com
Location: Vedder/Chilliwack
Date Posted: 1-Jul-99
Fished the Vedder/Chilliwack today without a touch. The river is high, wide and wild. Talked to about 40 other anglers and all had the same luck as our group. Went from there up to the mouth of the Coquihalla and had the same score. Everything is too high and on the dirty side right now with all the rain. Give it a week or so to come back into shape. Good Fishin'

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Cap/Tim
Date Posted: 1-Jul-99
Tim, think like the Coho, are these strong fish or weak fish, bottom hugging fish or middle of the water fish. You want to fish where its slower but deeper water, and the spot under the no.1 bridge before the rapids is very productive, as these fish are very finicky about when they will challenge the white water, especially with the river as high and as mighty as it is right now. So, you want to get your stuff in the strike zone. This means using a)big leader and b) possibly shortening your float/lead length to get your stuff in the strike zone, sometimes to the point where the yarn is visible to you. My advice, is fish the white water pool before the rapids where theres side current thats weaker and more of a pool. Work various distances between your float and leaders, and make sure you have long leaders as these fish are very timid. Rick is right, you will need baitcasting gear, because throughout your drift, when these small fish take, you want to set the hook fast, or they will spit it out, spinning gear doesn't offer full tension throughout the drift meaning you probably have had several fish over the past few weeks take your offering, but you just can't set the sucker, because they spat it out faster than you can say "you go girlfriend." Pick an area of water, or behind a rock, just south (downstream) of the white water, and fish on the west bank of the river. Work spots in 2-3 minute cycles, work behind a rock for 2 minutes, then fish the other side of the river for 2-3 minutes, then work anther spot where you think they will be for 2-3 minutes. Then alter your float/leader distance, and try it again. You want the offering up or level with the fishes eyes, as they can't see anything below them, thats why using small leaders is pointless right now, until you're winter steelheading or fishing cold water conditions for White Springs. Keep in mind, theres times when these fish are active, and times when they're sometimes not. I went to the cable pool one day and you could see signs of fish, I saw a 15 pound steelhead rise and take a fly and then 2 minutes later a coho rised and attacked my brothers float. The next time I was there, you'd think this was just a bog with no fish in it. Be patient, thats something I still have to teach myself, fishing for coho is like steelheading, but with one crucial difference, steelhead are hard to find, easy to catch, coho are easy to find, hard to catch. Also try what Rick recommended, get some roe. Coho aren't shy fish, and will attack things from spoons, to roe. Scott.

Name: Scott
Email: Scott_Kirkpatrick@bc.sympatico.ca
Location: Vedder
Date Posted: 1-Jul-99
Well y'all, anyone fished the vedder yet? Apparently the Vedder is literally roaring right now, and not worth trying as its incredibly high, and any pools you think will be good, aren't pools anymore, or so I've heard. From one report I've heard, No one caught anything today or saw anything caught. Keep em posted y'all...I guess its too early to fish the vedder right now. Scott.

Name: Rick
Location: Cap / Tim
Date Posted: 1-Jul-99
Hey Tim, that`s about all I can say, maybe it`s the equipment you are using? I have introduced river fishing to some of my friends, and the coffee grinder does not cut it.(spinning reel) You need a levelwind or a centerpin,10ft or more rod, believe me equitment is just as important than bait. I don`t want to sound ignorant but I haven`t fish with you nor seen your equiptment. My friends now know what I`m talking about. The old timer that talt me how to river fish, talt me on a centre pin, believe me you never stop learning. You just have to make that bait look like it`s just catching a wave down river. Just make it go with the flow. My e-mail is down, sorry. Good luck, I`m going to hit the Cap at 5 before I hit the Quantum Leap to Chilliwack, hopefully I get to say FISH ONNNNNNNN!!!!!!!!!

 

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